Friday, March 16, 2012

ANOTHER SCIENCE - RELIGION SMACKDOWN

ROUND TWO

I previously wrote about a WWF-style smackdown among Mohler, Giberson and Coyne, and the verbal jousting continues.  Uncle Karl recently wrote a piece in the Huffington Post basically saying that atheists need to learn a bit more about church, maybe even by attending one, before they bomb religion with the petard of rationalism.  Coyne quickly responded with a post at WEIT - interestingly penned by the shadowy Sigmund who runs his own commentary at the Sneer Review.  It seems as though Coyne has turned over his BioLogos-and-Company critiques to Sigmund, who apparently keeps a close eye on the BioLogos website, former BL vice president Giberson, and other science-religion accommodationists.  

For me, both camps make some good points, and by reading both pieces, you can decide for yourself what does or does not resonate with you.  I am currently working on a post entitled The Limits of Religion in which I hope to explore the relationships among the church, state and science.

11 comments:

Pale Horse said...

Eeny meeny miney moe, catch a Christian by the toe...

Sigmund said...

I'm not shadowy!

Dr S said...

HA! Sigmund - your 'shadowiness' was only a lighthearted poke at your web anonymity, at least from my perspective. Seems like you once mentioned that you were in London, but quien sabe :-) I think that Darrel Falk once had thoughts that perhaps I was "Sigmund" but quickly realized that I neither as smart nor as dedicated as you!

paz

ds

BioLogician said...

Just as science proves Genesis 1 to be untrue, it proves the basis of the New Testament untrue. No scientist has ever observed a rotting corpse come back to life after three days. No scientific experiments in the lab have ever been able to bring back to life a rotting corpses, thus the resurrection is a myth. Existence of soul and spirit and glorified body are myths as they cannot be detected and measured in the lab.

xian said...

Science does not necessarily prove Genesis and the NT 'untrue' but rather not literal. The whole kit and kaboodle could be allegory, but that does not preclude morsels of wisdom and truth. Folks should think a more about the here and now, a la Matthew 25 rather than perseverating on an afterlife.

Sick Sigma Sez said...

Freud was a fraud. Why would anyone want to identify with him? Unless...

Sigmund said...

Thank's for that, 'Sick Sigmas Sez'. Considering the things I write about, if I wasn't provoking hostility from some people I wouldn't be doing it right!

Dr S said...

It seems popular and trendy, particularly on the right, to criticize Freud as a fraud. Despite has personal shortcomings and flimsy science, we should remember what Karl Popper said regarding Freud - "theories, and the conduct of their protagonists, belong to two entirely separate worlds." Being wrong doesn't equate with being a fraud.

Ava G. said...

Xian, my understanding of Matthew 25 is that I feed, clothe, and house the poor with my taxes, thus sit to the right of God and am saved.

xian said...

Ava G - to continue your logic, you pay a lot more to wage war, destroy homes and lives, and kill civilians than you do to care for the least of these.....thus you will not sit a the right hand of God and be saved.

Ava G. said...

Well then, Xian, those who pay no taxes are not paying to support wars or destroy homes or lives. If they then do their Matthew 25 duties out-of-pocket, they, indeed will have a high standing with the Lord.